Comments for Eugad - EU for the global development agenda http://www.eugad.eu European citizens working for the global development agenda Sat, 14 Aug 2010 09:30:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 Comment on New testimonial for ‘Defining Development’ – A new form of competition, the Humanitarian Competition. by Fausto Aarya De Santis http://www.eugad.eu/2010/05/new-testimonial-for-defining-development-a-new-form-of-competition-the-humanitarian-competition/comment-page-1/#comment-180 Fausto Aarya De Santis Tue, 01 Jun 2010 10:26:03 +0000 http://www.eugad.eu/?p=1585#comment-180 It is always important to understand if the degrowth of today might lead to a more healthy and sustainable growth of tomorrow! It is always important to understand if the degrowth of today might lead to a more healthy and sustainable growth of tomorrow!

]]> Comment on New testimonial for ‘Defining Development’ – A new form of competition, the Humanitarian Competition. by Fausto Aarya De Santis http://www.eugad.eu/2010/05/new-testimonial-for-defining-development-a-new-form-of-competition-the-humanitarian-competition/comment-page-1/#comment-179 Fausto Aarya De Santis Tue, 01 Jun 2010 10:24:56 +0000 http://www.eugad.eu/?p=1585#comment-179 When we work together in a project, we have an objective in mind; an objective which all of us want to achieve. If i fail in my task or anyone else fails... the project fails... so when i am in trouble you will help me, or if you are in trouble i will help you (for on that the success of the project depends). In a team my loss is your loss and my win is your win... and vice versa. It is true that one can argue by saying that in the world many teams exist and they try to compete with each other - fact market forces are a proof of that. So, if Apple wins, Microsoft looses... and if i am Microsoft, well.. i loose and that is the truth. But here i'm looking only at me. I'm looking at a small scale, what does the larger scale depict? Is it the same? Has the computer industry lost? Have the customers lost? Well, i'm not sure of the answer, but... i know that a monopoly is never good for an industry nor for the consumer... for it takes away innovation and creativity, apart of the price game! So maybe, the WE (industry and consumer) haven't actually lost... but created a more healthy market atmosphere. The question which arise here then, is: "Is the world a you-me, or a us-us"... what i mean is, is the world one big team (the WORLD) or many individuals (Italy, USA, France, India, etc..) trying to achieve an objective? As always in the history, communities have always expanded.. and today we have reached a stage where we are all of us are interdependent but we have a difficulty in accepting this interdependence. It makes us feel insecure. For me we should take this as we take our first day of college, our first date, our first day of work, or our first meet with the family of my fiance`... we all face this insecurity, but we move forward and we become part of the team. In the same way, we need to open our minds see the development of the world a project where all of us are involved. A project where we are one team. A game where the rules have changed and we need to learn the new ones fast... for either we all win, or we all loose! We are all in it together... and we can all win :) When we work together in a project, we have an objective in mind; an objective which all of us want to achieve. If i fail in my task or anyone else fails… the project fails… so when i am in trouble you will help me, or if you are in trouble i will help you (for on that the success of the project depends). In a team my loss is your loss and my win is your win… and vice versa.

It is true that one can argue by saying that in the world many teams exist and they try to compete with each other – fact market forces are a proof of that. So, if Apple wins, Microsoft looses… and if i am Microsoft, well.. i loose and that is the truth. But here i’m looking only at me. I’m looking at a small scale, what does the larger scale depict? Is it the same? Has the computer industry lost? Have the customers lost? Well, i’m not sure of the answer, but… i know that a monopoly is never good for an industry nor for the consumer… for it takes away innovation and creativity, apart of the price game! So maybe, the WE (industry and consumer) haven’t actually lost… but created a more healthy market atmosphere.

The question which arise here then, is: “Is the world a you-me, or a us-us”… what i mean is, is the world one big team (the WORLD) or many individuals (Italy, USA, France, India, etc..) trying to achieve an objective?

As always in the history, communities have always expanded.. and today we have reached a stage where we are all of us are interdependent but we have a difficulty in accepting this interdependence. It makes us feel insecure. For me we should take this as we take our first day of college, our first date, our first day of work, or our first meet with the family of my fiance`… we all face this insecurity, but we move forward and we become part of the team.

In the same way, we need to open our minds see the development of the world a project where all of us are involved. A project where we are one team. A game where the rules have changed and we need to learn the new ones fast… for either we all win, or we all loose!

We are all in it together… and we can all win :)

]]> Comment on New testimonial for ‘Defining Development’ – A new form of competition, the Humanitarian Competition. by Wilma Massucco http://www.eugad.eu/2010/05/new-testimonial-for-defining-development-a-new-form-of-competition-the-humanitarian-competition/comment-page-1/#comment-178 Wilma Massucco Tue, 01 Jun 2010 06:54:34 +0000 http://www.eugad.eu/?p=1585#comment-178 Do you believe that the "Humanitarian competition", as introduced by Tsunesaburo Makiguchi and Daisaku Ikeda, may be really feasible as new form of competition and new paradigm for the 21st century? In which way can it replace the current debated paradigms of "Growth", "Sustainable Development" or "Degrowth"? Do you believe that the “Humanitarian competition”, as introduced by Tsunesaburo Makiguchi and Daisaku Ikeda, may be really feasible as new form of competition and new paradigm for the 21st century? In which way can it replace the current debated paradigms of “Growth”, “Sustainable Development” or “Degrowth”?

]]> Comment on VIA per VIA: Italians, migrants and Institutions will work together – A Good Practice for the Project Manual by Wilma http://www.eugad.eu/2010/05/good-practices-for-the-project-manual/comment-page-1/#comment-176 Wilma Sun, 23 May 2010 07:23:43 +0000 http://www.eugad.eu/?p=1534#comment-176 In my opinion, a "good practice" may be defined as such in case it follows some criteria. First: the approach. For VIA per VIA I think it's very incisive, and a powerful message for the town of Modena (and not only for Modena), the fact that a Municipality decided to devolve time, resources and money to face local problems through the involvement of the people directly involved in those same problems, i.e. Italians, migrants and institutions all together. This means a bottom - up approach, which is a good example of Participatory democracy, much different from the standard Democracy, based on a decision-making approach following a top-down model. Second, the tools. The Municipality of Modena decided to arrange a training course for Facilitators to help this Participatory approach be effective. And some of the Facilitators selected are migrants, not only Italians, and they will work, in the Facilitating process, together with representatives of the Municipality Institutions. Which means: we're all citizens of the town, no difference between old and new citizens; the Municipality really wants to move the common citizens to the same level of Institutions. Third: the scheduling, and the clear definition of who 's doing what, included target dates to reach the results, step-by-step check points, which kind of results should be reached at each check point. So, if the objectives are clear, the tools are good and the process is well defined .... hopefully the results should be good as well. If not, it will be interesting to investigate the reason why not .... In my opinion, a “good practice” may be defined as such in case it follows some criteria.

First: the approach. For VIA per VIA I think it’s very incisive, and a powerful message for the town of Modena (and not only for Modena), the fact that a Municipality decided to devolve time, resources and money to face local problems through the involvement of the people directly involved in those same problems, i.e. Italians, migrants and institutions all together.
This means a bottom – up approach, which is a good example of Participatory democracy, much different from the standard Democracy, based on a decision-making approach following a top-down model.

Second, the tools. The Municipality of Modena decided to arrange a training course for Facilitators to help this Participatory approach be effective. And some of the Facilitators selected are migrants, not only Italians, and they will work, in the Facilitating process, together with representatives of the Municipality Institutions.
Which means: we’re all citizens of the town, no difference between old and new citizens; the Municipality really wants to move the common citizens to the same level of Institutions.

Third: the scheduling, and the clear definition of who ‘s doing what, included target dates to reach the results, step-by-step check points, which kind of results should be reached at each check point.

So, if the objectives are clear, the tools are good and the process is well defined …. hopefully the results should be good as well.
If not, it will be interesting to investigate the reason why not ….

]]> Comment on VIA per VIA: Italians, migrants and Institutions will work together – A Good Practice for the Project Manual by Stefano De Santis http://www.eugad.eu/2010/05/good-practices-for-the-project-manual/comment-page-1/#comment-175 Stefano De Santis Fri, 21 May 2010 16:52:18 +0000 http://www.eugad.eu/?p=1534#comment-175 How is it that a new project, i.e. one that has not yet achieved its result, is selected as a "good practice", i.e. an activity that has successfully reached its objectives? How can you say it is a good practice if we do know its impact? How is it that a new project, i.e. one that has not yet achieved its result, is selected as a “good practice”, i.e. an activity that has successfully reached its objectives? How can you say it is a good practice if we do know its impact?

]]> Comment on Give a name to the future: Development or Degrowth? by Vincenzo Pira http://www.eugad.eu/2010/05/give-a-name-to-the-future-development-or-degrowth/comment-page-1/#comment-173 Vincenzo Pira Tue, 18 May 2010 10:57:12 +0000 http://www.eugad.eu/?p=1523#comment-173 Sviluppo, un concetto nato nella cultura capitalista e che pretende di essere universale senza possibilità di esserlo. Identifico in tale contesto l’esistenza di due approcci normativi dello sviluppo : uno definito “approccio positivo” e che parte dalla realtà dei dati e da un ambito territoriale definito e l’altro “approccio normativo” che propone paradigmi, finalità dello sviluppo. Il primo focalizza l’essere, il secondo il dover essere ed è una dicotomia che è rilevante nell’elaborare le politiche e l’operatività conseguente (prevalenza del metodo induttivo o deduttivo). Ovvero come relazionare l’esigenza di partire dalla realtà concreta e trovare in essa le possibili soluzioni e l’applicare modelli teorici (paradigmi) che sono frutto di sistematizzazione delle diverse esperienze. Occorre ricordare un po’ di storia per collocarlo adeguatamente al suo posto. In questo senso ritengo positivo ogni tentativo che cerchi di creare nuovi paradigmi. Ma ciò non è sufficiente se questi non vengono trasformati in esperienze diffuse che ne testimonino la loro adeguatezza. Credo che anche la proposta di "decrescita" non sia adeguata in ogni latitudine. E' una provocazione per le società post industriali e capitaliste che devono fare il conto nel governo del pianeta con l'irruzione nella storia di un paio di miliardi di persone che reclamano diritti. Che chiedono di condividere il consumo di energia, di cibo, di acqua, di mobilità, di libertà. E l'assicurare ciò a tutti non è possibile con i modelli di sviluppo egemoni nell'occidente capitalista. Da qui la necessità di sperimentare nuovi stili di vita, nuove politiche, nuove modalità di pesnare il mondo e la convivenza civile. Non è una sfida da poco. Ma è appassionante. Sviluppo, un concetto nato nella cultura capitalista e che pretende di essere universale senza possibilità di esserlo.
Identifico in tale contesto l’esistenza di due approcci normativi dello sviluppo : uno definito “approccio positivo” e che parte dalla realtà dei dati e da un ambito territoriale definito e l’altro “approccio normativo” che propone paradigmi, finalità dello sviluppo.
Il primo focalizza l’essere, il secondo il dover essere ed è una dicotomia che è rilevante nell’elaborare le politiche e l’operatività conseguente (prevalenza del metodo induttivo o deduttivo). Ovvero come relazionare l’esigenza di partire dalla realtà concreta e trovare in essa le possibili soluzioni e l’applicare modelli teorici (paradigmi) che sono frutto di sistematizzazione delle diverse esperienze.
Occorre ricordare un po’ di storia per collocarlo adeguatamente al suo posto.
In questo senso ritengo positivo ogni tentativo che cerchi di creare nuovi paradigmi. Ma ciò non è sufficiente se questi non vengono trasformati in esperienze diffuse che ne testimonino la loro adeguatezza. Credo che anche la proposta di “decrescita” non sia adeguata in ogni latitudine. E’ una provocazione per le società post industriali e capitaliste che devono fare il conto nel governo del pianeta con l’irruzione nella storia di un paio di miliardi di persone che reclamano diritti. Che chiedono di condividere il consumo di energia, di cibo, di acqua, di mobilità, di libertà. E l’assicurare ciò a tutti non è possibile con i modelli di sviluppo egemoni nell’occidente capitalista. Da qui la necessità di sperimentare nuovi stili di vita, nuove politiche, nuove modalità di pesnare il mondo e la convivenza civile. Non è una sfida da poco. Ma è appassionante.

]]> Comment on Give a name to the future: Development or Degrowth? by Wilma Massucco http://www.eugad.eu/2010/05/give-a-name-to-the-future-development-or-degrowth/comment-page-1/#comment-172 Wilma Massucco Tue, 18 May 2010 08:18:35 +0000 http://www.eugad.eu/?p=1523#comment-172 Dear Rajendra, I agree with you. As a matter of fact, in India, in these last years the GDP (PIL in Italian language) grew till 9% and more, and in the same time this country became also the capital of hunger, with more than 250 millions of people under the level of economical survival.... The subsaharian Africa has always been the capital of poverty, but now the situation in India is even worse than there. Which means that, for sure, the increase of GDP by itself may not be a solution to poverty Dear Rajendra,
I agree with you.

As a matter of fact, in India, in these last years the GDP (PIL in Italian language) grew till 9% and more, and in the same time this country became also the capital of hunger, with more than 250 millions of people under the level of economical survival…. The subsaharian Africa has always been the capital of poverty, but now the situation in India is even worse than there.

Which means that, for sure, the increase of GDP by itself may not be a solution to poverty

]]> Comment on Give a name to the future: Development or Degrowth? by Sabattini Walter http://www.eugad.eu/2010/05/give-a-name-to-the-future-development-or-degrowth/comment-page-1/#comment-171 Sabattini Walter Mon, 17 May 2010 07:57:12 +0000 http://www.eugad.eu/?p=1523#comment-171 la soluzione a tutti i problemi è una sola CONTROLLO DEMOGRAFICO non è pensabile che da un lato la popolazione mondiale cresca in modo esponenziale e dall'altro si pensi di limitare i consumi, è un gatto che si morde la coda. i paesi più ricchi dovrebbero sostenere lo sviluppo dei paesi più poveri ( e questo crea lavoro) in cambio di una politica seria del controllo delle nascite. questa è l'unica via di uscita di un'umanità che sta remando sempre più velocemente verso la catastrofe. per la legge dell'entropia finiranno tutte le fonti di energia fossile, ma anche il ferro , il rame, e tutti gli altri elementi indispensabili alla nostra attività quotidiana, per rallentare la corsa : riciclo, energie rinnovabili, controllo delle nascite. la soluzione a tutti i problemi è una sola
CONTROLLO DEMOGRAFICO
non è pensabile che da un lato la popolazione mondiale cresca in modo esponenziale e dall’altro si pensi di limitare i consumi, è un gatto che si morde la coda.
i paesi più ricchi dovrebbero sostenere lo sviluppo dei paesi più poveri ( e questo crea lavoro) in cambio di una politica seria del controllo delle nascite.
questa è l’unica via di uscita di un’umanità che sta remando sempre più velocemente verso la catastrofe.
per la legge dell’entropia finiranno tutte le fonti di energia fossile, ma anche il ferro , il rame, e tutti gli altri elementi indispensabili alla nostra attività quotidiana, per rallentare la corsa :
riciclo, energie rinnovabili, controllo delle nascite.

]]> Comment on Give a name to the future: Development or Degrowth? by RAJENDRA PRASAD VERMA http://www.eugad.eu/2010/05/give-a-name-to-the-future-development-or-degrowth/comment-page-1/#comment-170 RAJENDRA PRASAD VERMA Sun, 16 May 2010 14:10:55 +0000 http://www.eugad.eu/?p=1523#comment-170 Dear Wilma,i am not an economist,so i am not qualified enough to give an opinion but as a common citizen of the country I think,As India is a developing country,it can not afford degrowth but requires a moderate 7-8% PIL growth for at least 10 years to built the ifrastructure in indutry,healthcare,education and trasportation for its citizen to uplift the quality of life ,they truly deserve.there is a inherent risk for the country if it opts for the double digit rate of growth which we regularly hearing off,because this rate of growth will lead to higher money supply resulting in high inflation,resulting in decrease in the purchasing power of most of the people,in scionario where less than 5% of the retail participation in the stock market of india ,the gap between the haves and havenots will only increase leading to conflicts and unrest in society.....so on. 6 hours ago · Dear Wilma,i am not an economist,so i am not qualified enough to give an opinion but as a common citizen of the country I think,As India is a developing country,it can not afford degrowth but requires a moderate 7-8% PIL growth for at least 10 years to built the ifrastructure in indutry,healthcare,education and trasportation for its citizen to uplift the quality of life ,they truly deserve.there is a inherent risk for the country if it opts for the double digit rate of growth which we regularly hearing off,because this rate of growth will lead to higher money supply resulting in high inflation,resulting in decrease in the purchasing power of most of the people,in scionario where less than 5% of the retail participation in the stock market of india ,the gap between the haves and havenots will only increase leading to conflicts and unrest in society…..so on.
6 hours ago ·

]]> Comment on Give a name to the future: Development or Degrowth? by danilo d'antonio http://www.eugad.eu/2010/05/give-a-name-to-the-future-development-or-degrowth/comment-page-1/#comment-169 danilo d'antonio Sun, 16 May 2010 12:32:03 +0000 http://www.eugad.eu/?p=1523#comment-169 Give a name to the future: Metamorfosi Permettetemi di presentare l'invito al seminario on line: "Metamorfosare necesse est" http://www.hyperlinker.com/change/metamorfosare_0.htm Coi migliori saluti, danilo Give a name to the future: Metamorfosi

Permettetemi di presentare l’invito al seminario on line:

“Metamorfosare necesse est”
http://www.hyperlinker.com/change/metamorfosare_0.htm

Coi migliori saluti,

danilo

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